I have been a great fan of Ellen Booraem's since I read Small Persons with Wings, her novel about some marvelously touchy and irritable fairies. So I jumped at the chance to read an ARC of her latest, Texting the Underworld (Penguin/Dial Books for Young Readers), in stores this month. I loved it, and you will too. Read more about it below in the giveaway section, and then enter to win your own copy.
In this interview, Ellen talks about how to make death funny and the secret to a non-corny Irish voice (which I am stealing). Also, for the record, she describes my own feelings about drafting vs revising to a precise T. -Katherine Catmull
1. You have the BEST titles. I 100%
read Small Persons With Wings because I correctly assumed that with a
title like that, it had to be smart and funny and delightful (ed. note: If you
have not read SPWW, read it—it was on pretty much every Best of 2011 list). Did
the title Texting the Underworld just come to you, or was it A Process?
Ellen Booraem |
It
was definitely A Process. I can take credit for naming Small Persons with Wings, but absolutely not Texting the Underworld. The search for this title was terrifying at
times—my editor Kathy Dawson and I emailed lists back and forth with various
combinations of key words ranging from Death to Jelly Beans, and it seemed like
we’d never come up with anything. (At one point, I did want to call it Death
& Jelly Beans. ) We agreed only that we needed to combine the mundane with
the otherworldly. My memory has
blurred, but I’m pretty sure it was Kathy who came up with Texting the Underworld.
2.
I love how you treat such serious
subjects — like 12-year-old Conor’s anxiety issues, and, you know, DEATH—in
such a light, funny, but never unserious way. How do you balance the tone so
beautifully?
Chiefly
it’s a matter of setting up characters and contrasts that are likely to be
funny—the banshee learning about the world through outdated Trivial Pursuit
cards, for example—and getting them clear in my head before I start writing. Since
the story’s about something inherently scary, like death and the unknown, I
made my protagonist, poor Conor, the kind of person who’s least likely to
tolerate such things. (He’s a naturally fearful kid who’s obsessed with mapping
his known world.) Once you have elements that naturally lend themselves to
humor, you’re free to write a serious book and let the comedy take care of
itself.
Also,
though, I think I’m incapable of taking anything too seriously. Sometimes it’s
a curse—I’ve learned over the years that when tragedy happens I have to just
keep my mouth shut, for fear of saying something utterly inappropriate.
3. I thought you did a wonderful job
with the banshee Ashling’s voice. She spoke with foreign cadences, both Irish
and ancient (and hilariously interlarded with modern slang the longer she’s
with Conor), without ever falling into corniness or Tolkien-pastiche. How did
you find that voice and keep it so consistent? (Am doing something similar in a
book right now, and it makes me nervous.)
I
was nervous about that, too. The last thing I wanted was to make Ashling some
caricature Irish wench, and I certainly wasn’t going to use any
gosh-and-begorrah vocabulary. So I did something sneaky—I gave her first few
speeches a VERY Irish cadence, then stopped trying to make her sound any way in
particular. I figured if I got her voice established in the readers’ minds from
the outset, they’d just assume she
sounded Irish from that point on. I did make her vocabulary a little bit
archaic, befitting someone who’d been stuck in the afterlife for sixteen
hundred years.
4. I know that although you live in
Maine now (which is at the top of my why-have-I never-visited places, by the
way), you grew up in Massachusetts. Any Irish heritage? At least to my inexperienced
eye and ear, you nailed the Boston Irish family at the center of this book.
Oh,
I do hope that’s true! I really wanted South Boston to seem right, and I had a
lot of advisers helping me make it so. My mother’s family was mostly Irish, and
she definitely identified as such. The town I grew up in north of Boston was
predominantly Irish and Italian, and there were Irish families in my
neighborhood. I named Conor’s school after one of my mother’s best friends, who
came from a big Irish family. When I was in Southie for research, the speech
patterns and attitudes were very familiar from my childhood.
You
definitely should visit Maine. It’s gorgeous.
5. Celtic mythology is a pretty
significant vein in this book, though it’s not the only ancient source you use.
How deeply did you have to dig yourself into that research? I thought I knew
something about Celtic myths, but had never heard of Testing the Birds, for
example, which is crucial in your story.
Oh,
goody—I’m so glad the Birds sounded authentic, because I totally made them up.
Ravens and the number three are common in Celtic tales, though, and if a crow
or raven appeared on the battlefield it meant the Morrigan (a battle goddess)
was near.
I
did do a lot of reading, both in books and online, about ancient Ireland and
Celtic mythology. I found the mythology a little hard to pin down,
frankly—everything I read seemed to have a different take on it. I think that’s
partly because none of it was written down until the eighth century or so, and
then the writers were Christian monks who probably imposed their own beliefs. It
was a big relief when I realized that the underworld needed to be
multi-cultural and that I was going to have to make up a lot of stuff on my
own.
6. This is your third book — how was
the process of writing it different from the others? In general, do you feel
like your writing is changing with experience? Complicating, or tightening, or
lightening, or serious-ing, or — ?
This
was the first time I wrote a plot synopsis before I wrote the book. Before, I
knew the last line but not how I was going to get there. With a synopsis
written ahead of time, I had to overcome the feeling that I’d already told my
tale—I did that essentially by ignoring the synopsis when I started writing. But
now I’m addicted to having a synopsis first—it’s a comfort to know that it is
possible to make the plot work, even if you end up writing it in a completely
different way.
Otherwise,
I think the major thing I’ve learned (although I have to keep re-learning it)
is not to let the supernatural elements take over for the basic human story.
It’s easy to get distracted by all the bells and whistles and forget that the
important story is about a person with a problem.
7. What was the seed idea for Texting
the Underworld?
I
was reading Abbey Lubbers, Boggarts &
Banshees by the late British folklorist Katharine Briggs, and discovered her
theory that a banshee was a maiden who died too young and came back to warn her
family of an impending death. I’d always thought of banshees as horrible
screaming hags. Briggs’s version seemed like she’d have an interesting tale to
tell.
8. Which do you like better (or
anyway which is less dreadable): drafting or revising?
Definitely
revising. I have a love/hate relationship with drafting—it’s fun to be making
things up, but I’m terrified of the blank screen. During the drafting stage, I have to make strict rules:
Write every day, and no lunch until I have a thousand words—otherwise I’d never
get anything done. I also keep reminding myself of Anne Lamott’s reassurance
that first drafts are supposed to be
terrible. Revision is pure joy—that’s when you finally figure out where the
story’s going and what might be special about it. So I’ll revise all day
without having to impose any rules at all.
9. Tricia Hoover always asks her
interviewees for a favorite inspirational thought at the end of her interviews,
and I’ve found some great ones that way. Do you have one that’s working for you
now?
I
have this stuck to my computer monitor on a post-it note: “The real voyage of
discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes.”
That’s Marcel Proust, and I have no idea where I picked it up because I’ve
never read Proust. ( I guess I should do that sometime.) For me that’s the core
of fantasy: to give the author and the reader a new
perspective on reality.
This
was fun, Katherine—thanks for interviewing me!
The next stop on Ellen’s blog tour
for Texting
the Underworld is tomorrow at Prose
& Kahn. See you
there!
And now for the GIVEAWAY. Two copies of Texting the Underworld are up for grabs (U.S. only, sorry)--all you need to do is comment on this post, and be sure to leave your email. For extra credit, tweet about the giveaway and follow @EnchantedInkpot on Twitter--just see the Rafflecopter widget below. Entries close on August 21, 2013. Good luck! And here's a quick description of the book:
Conor O’Neill always thought spiders—and his little sister, Glennie—were the worst kind of monsters life had in store. That was before an inexperienced young banshee named Ashling showed up in his bedroom.
The arrival of a banshee, as Conor soon learns, means only one thing: Someone in his family is going to die. Not only will Ashling not tell him who it is, it turns out that she’s so fascinated by the world above that she insists on going to middle school with him.
The more Ashling gets involved in his life, the harder it becomes to keep her identity a secret from his friends and teachers—and the more Conor worries about his family. If he wants to keep them safe, he’s going to have to do the scariest thing he’s ever done: Pay a visit to the underworld.
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Conor O’Neill always thought spiders—and his little sister, Glennie—were the worst kind of monsters life had in store. That was before an inexperienced young banshee named Ashling showed up in his bedroom.
The arrival of a banshee, as Conor soon learns, means only one thing: Someone in his family is going to die. Not only will Ashling not tell him who it is, it turns out that she’s so fascinated by the world above that she insists on going to middle school with him.
The more Ashling gets involved in his life, the harder it becomes to keep her identity a secret from his friends and teachers—and the more Conor worries about his family. If he wants to keep them safe, he’s going to have to do the scariest thing he’s ever done: Pay a visit to the underworld.
If only there were an app for that.
What a great interview, ladies! I'm not generally a big reader of middle grade, but I think I need to read this.
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ReplyDeleteI am so excited for this book! I mean, I thought I was excited before, but now! I have entered the realm of SuperExcited!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations, Ellen, and great interview, Katherine
Thanks! And thanks to Katherine for such great questions.
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An ARC of this book fell into my hands last month and I enjoyed it so much! Congrats on another successful book, Ellen, and what a wonderful interview!
ReplyDeleteI really like Ellen's thoughts on the difficulties of pinning down the mythology, since I'm facing a similar struggle with my own WIP. Can't wait for the new book! CAN'T WAIT, AAAGGHH
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ReplyDeleteMike, when it comes to mythology I figure we simply add to the canon!
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ReplyDeleteI loved, loved, loved Small Persons with Wings so this is going right to the top of the TBR pile!
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*Ashling stares blankly at Pippa.* What is a gosh? And a begorrah, is it a food?
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Wonderful interview! And I love how the cover art meshes perfectly w/the title. My email is leandrawallace at gmail.com Thanks!
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