WHEN THE STARS THREW DOWN THEIR SPEARS, the third book in Kersten Hamilton's YA Goblin Wars trilogy, just released. Inspired (in part) by William Blake's poem The Tyger, the story deals with choice, destiny, faith, and the burden of the past. Woven together of magic and myth, art and poetry, the world of the Goblin Wars is a place where evil has a will (and a shadow following) of its own–but also where song has power, and bent things, once good, can begin to find their way back to where they began.
It's the conclusion to a gorgeous series (we talked about TYGER TYGER and IN THE FORESTS OF THE NIGHT earlier) that does not disappoint. I already want to go back and soak up a little more magic. (and if you haven't read the first two, this is your lucky September, because they should all be read in a row, and now you can!) (seriously, GO.)
AG: You've
spoken before about your reasons for writing the Goblin War books; can you now
tell us more about writing and creating them?
KH: There was one element of the creation of these books that I
did not want to talk about until I knew whether or not I could finish well. I
have finished as well as I am able. And so:
Philip Pullman’s HIS DARK MATERIALS trilogy was
very much on my mind when I started THE GOBLIN WARS. I hope that, like Pullman’s
books, mine are enjoyable to people who simply want an adventure. But there is
more to both trilogies. HIS DARK MATERIALS is a parable of the Republic of
Heaven; THE GOBLIN WARS is a parable of the Kingdom of God.
I completely love Pullman’s writing and
completely disagree with the final note of his worldview. Here is a quote from
one of my favorite Pullman interviews:
“Firstly, a sense that this world where we live is
our home. Our home is not somewhere else. There is no elsewhere. This is a
physical universe and we are physical beings made of material stuff. This is where
we live.
Secondly, a sense of belonging, a sense of being part of a real and
important story, a sense of being connected to other people, to people who are
not here any more, to those who have gone before us. And a sense of being
connected to the universe itself.
All those things were promised and summed
up in the phrase, 'The Kingdom of Heaven'. But if the Kingdom is dead, we still
need those things. We can't live without those things because it's too bleak,
it's too bare and we don't need to. We can find a way of creating them for
ourselves if we think in terms of a Republic of Heaven.
This is not a Kingdom
but a Republic, in which we are all free and equal citizens, with – and this is
the important thing – responsibilities.” (http://www.surefish.co.uk/culture/features/pullman_interview.htm)
I agree wholeheartedly with Pullman that “All of
those things were promised and summed up in the phrase, ‘The Kingdom of Heaven’.”
But if the Kingdom is dead, if it never existed,
why do we still need those things? Why do we feel that living without them is
too bleak and too bare? We—all of humankind—are hungry for exactly those
things. We long for the Kingdom. That longing shines through the myths, legends
and great stories of every tribe and nation. It is part of what makes us human.
AG: Poetry
and song are wound through all three stories, especially the last one. Did you
have to go searching for the right lyrics to fit, or did the songs come first
and guide the story?
KH: The lyrics, poems and stories had worked their way into me
for years, and were present in every part of the story’s creation, like strands
in a Celtic knot. For instance, G.K. Chesterton’s The Ballad of the White Horse
burned into my soul the first time I read these lines:
For the man dwelt in a lost land
Of boulders and broken
men,
In a great grey cave
far off to the south
Where a thick green
forest stopped the mouth,
Giving darkness in his
den.
And the man was come like a shadow,
From the shadow of Druid trees,
Where Usk, with mighty
murmurings,
Past Caerleon of the
fallen kings,
Goes out to ghostly
seas.
Last of a race in ruin--
He spoke the speech of
the Gaels;
His kin were in holy
Ireland,
Or up in the crags of
Wales.
But his soul stood with his mother's folk,
That were of the
rain-wrapped isle,
Where Patrick and
Brandan westerly
Looked out at last on
a landless sea
And the sun's last
smile.
His harp was carved and cunning,
As the Celtic
craftsman makes,
Graven all over with
twisting shapes
Like many headless
snakes.
His harp was carved and cunning,
His sword prompt and sharp,
And he was gay when he
held the sword,
Sad when he held the
harp.
For the great Gaels of Ireland
Are the men that God
made mad,
For all their wars are
merry,
And all their songs
are sad.
He kept the Roman order,
He made the Christian
sign;
But his eyes grew
often blind and bright,
And the sea that rose
in the rocks at night
Rose to his head like
wine.
He made the sign of the cross of God,
He knew the Roman
prayer,
But he had unreason in
his heart
Because of the gods
that were.
Even they that walked on the high cliffs,
High as the clouds
were then,
Gods of unbearable beauty,
That broke the hearts
of men.
And whether in seat or saddle,
Whether with frown or
smile,
Whether at feast or
fight was he,
He heard the noise of
a nameless sea
On an undiscovered
isle.
AG: If
you have any links to any favorite recordings of Minstrel Boy, please share!
KH: I love Charlie Zahm’s version of The Minstrel Boy, because
he includes all verses:
AG: What
made you choose Chicago as the setting?
KH: There is an Irish connection to Chicago, of course. But the
real reason is Rose Hill Cemetery. I visited Rose Hill while I was researching
my CALEB, SON OF NONE series and fell in love with the place.
AG: Your
melding and manipulation of mythology blows my mind. How free were you with the
original tales?
KH: I was pretty free. I’m going to cheat, and use my Authors Note from TYGER
TYGER: THE GOBLIN WARS books are based on a ‘reimagining’ of Celtic prehistory
and mythology. I have borrowed the stories of Saint Patrick and Saint Drogo,
and the life of Myrddin Wyllt, the Welsh bard who became Merlin of legend, as
well as the modes and manners of Ireland's gypsies, the Irish Travelers, in
order to fasten this story securely in our world.
I am indebted to the young Fionn Mac Cumhaill, the great Celtic
hunter/warrior of myth, a paragon of Irish character. While researching this
book I devoured the stories of the Finnian Cycle, soundly ignoring the accounts
of Fionn's later life, when his character became questionable. Legend has it
that Fionn, like King Arthur, will rise again when he is needed—so I didn’t
think he would mind that I woke him for the telling of this tale.
The SĂdhe (pronounced “shee” as in banshee) of this book crept
out of the shadows all on their own. I knew them before I met them in Irish
mythology, and recognized them instantly when I did: a powerful people who fled
to another realm when they were defeated by the magic of music and art. These
are not fairies or fair folk, but creatures from older, darker tales, noted for
malice and the stealing of human children for pleasure or sport. Please
remember that this book is merely a single storyteller’s reimagining of what
is, what was, and what just might be.
AG: Teagan
has to deal with the effects of what happened in the previous books (both
things she did herself and things done to her) in order to determine who she is
going to ultimately become. Why was this theme important enough to write three
books about for you?
KH: It is important because I wholeheartedly agree with Pullman on
this: the Kingdom is about freedom…and responsibility.
Thank you for giving me an opportunity to talk about my
books, Amaris!
AG: You are beyond welcome. Thank you for writing such books of my heart!
Oh, and as to the
question in the title, the question Blake never answers in his poem, I
think the book answers it, and beautifully. I guess you'll have to read
it to see if you agree. :)
Awesome interview! I've never heard of these books but can't wait to ck them out bcz I love the idea the she takes Celtic stories and mythologies and "reimagines" them. Those type of stories low my mind too.
ReplyDeleteThanks! And trust me, you will not be disappointed with this reimagining. As awesome and engaging as the characters are (oooh, you will LOVE Finn!), I am almost more engrossed with the world, with all the possibilities, all the beauty, all the straight-up MAGIC.
DeleteOh, I ADORED Tyger Tyger - can't wait to read the rest of the trilogy!
ReplyDeleteGreat interview - it is so fun to read about the inspiration behind great books!
Agreed! I love how thoughtful and deliberate she was in her motivations and purposes in writing this story–but I love even more how you only see the fluid loveliness and truth of the world she created.
DeleteAlso, go get the next two books and read them NOW. You will not be sorry. Unless you get the second one without having the third one ready to go. You will definitely be sorry if THAT happens.
Wonderful interview! I can't wait to read all three, they sound fabulous!
ReplyDeleteThanks! And you should definitely NOT wait to read them. Grab all three and give yourself a week to get sucked in to this amazing world!
DeleteGREAT Interview, I loved Kersten's answers and I wholeheartedly agree on The Kingdom of Heaven. :-) Love her books, too! She is such a talent!
ReplyDeleteShe does give the best answers, doesn't she? And I'm so glad you've already discovered how great her books are!
DeleteGreat interview! I loved this series, but you can tell Kersten went all out in The Stars Threw Down Their Spears. It feels like it's own story without being the end of the trilogy.
ReplyDeleteGreat non-spoilerish questions. Especially the one about Teagan. Great wording!
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